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	<title>Comments on: Gentoo: devtmpfs and boot times (revisited)</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Olexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Olexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look in /etc/bootchartd.conf:

# Whether to automatically generate the boot chart once the boot logger
# completes.  The boot chart will be generated in $AUTO_RENDER_DIR.
# Note that the bootchart package must be installed.
AUTO_RENDER=&quot;yes&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look in /etc/bootchartd.conf:</p>
<p># Whether to automatically generate the boot chart once the boot logger<br />
# completes.  The boot chart will be generated in $AUTO_RENDER_DIR.<br />
# Note that the bootchart package must be installed.<br />
AUTO_RENDER=&#8221;yes&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Xanadu</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Xanadu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, how did you render the charts?  The way to do it online seems to have been dead for a while now (unless I&#039;m using the wrong one) and I don&#039;t see how to do it with the installed packages (yes with java enabled).  bootchart-render doesn&#039;t seem to install.

Thanks,
M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, how did you render the charts?  The way to do it online seems to have been dead for a while now (unless I&#8217;m using the wrong one) and I don&#8217;t see how to do it with the installed packages (yes with java enabled).  bootchart-render doesn&#8217;t seem to install.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
M.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comparision between devtmpfs and device tarball feature in /etc/conf.d/rc would be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comparision between devtmpfs and device tarball feature in /etc/conf.d/rc would be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavel</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1580</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, if you find the right combination of devtmpfs / openrc, would you mind sharing what needs to be done? Devtmpfs is on my todo list but I cant seem to find time for it. TIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, if you find the right combination of devtmpfs / openrc, would you mind sharing what needs to be done? Devtmpfs is on my todo list but I cant seem to find time for it. TIA.</p>
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		<title>By: Xake</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>Xake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This depends on your initramfs. If you have one, and it uses a static /dev then you do not have to run commands to create nodes for things devtmpfs handles (think bootdevices, framebuffer). If your initramfs uses udev to create device nodes for your startup disks, then you do not need udev there anymore.

If you do not have a initramfs, then there is currently no gain at all as udev has to be started anyway in baselayout/openrc before it lets you try to mount anything.
Here otoh if you hack your initscripts you may have something that can make changes with devtmpfs and no initramfs, not having to depend on udev getting started before doing anything device related (mounting, networking, and so on) may give a little gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This depends on your initramfs. If you have one, and it uses a static /dev then you do not have to run commands to create nodes for things devtmpfs handles (think bootdevices, framebuffer). If your initramfs uses udev to create device nodes for your startup disks, then you do not need udev there anymore.</p>
<p>If you do not have a initramfs, then there is currently no gain at all as udev has to be started anyway in baselayout/openrc before it lets you try to mount anything.<br />
Here otoh if you hack your initscripts you may have something that can make changes with devtmpfs and no initramfs, not having to depend on udev getting started before doing anything device related (mounting, networking, and so on) may give a little gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Olexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Olexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be more knowledgeable on the subject. However, I thought that the point was that devtmpfs was to start early and fast and then let udev make corrections later. http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/1/19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be more knowledgeable on the subject. However, I thought that the point was that devtmpfs was to start early and fast and then let udev make corrections later. <a href="http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/1/19" rel="nofollow">http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/1/19</a></p>
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		<title>By: some-guy</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>some-guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If udev manages the devices along with devtmpfs, then there is no gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If udev manages the devices along with devtmpfs, then there is no gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Olexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Olexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>devtmpfs, parallel startup disabled. But devtmpfs is irrelevant in this config because it doesn&#039;t change anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>devtmpfs, parallel startup disabled. But devtmpfs is irrelevant in this config because it doesn&#8217;t change anything.</p>
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		<title>By: jkt</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>jkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your last option does not specify which /dev manager you were using together with openrc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your last option does not specify which /dev manager you were using together with openrc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Olexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/12/10/gentoo-devtmpfs-and-boot-times-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Olexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I was wondering what would need to be changed. Can you elaborate more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I was wondering what would need to be changed. Can you elaborate more?</p>
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