Comments on: Gentoo: How to handle “xfce extras”? http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/ Random thoughts and rants...mostly Linux Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:23:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-617 Jeremy Olexa Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:07:19 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-617 Our goal is to get EVERYTHING from goodies.xfce.org in the tree. A subsidiary goal is to rename them to match upstream, this is foo-plugin instead of just foo. %% eix --only-names xfce4-*-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-cellmodem-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-eyes-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-linelight-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-modemlights-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-mpc-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-netload-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-notes-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-places-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-radio-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-stopwatch-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-time-out-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-timer-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-verve-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-wmdock-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin Our goal is to get EVERYTHING from goodies.xfce.org in the tree. A subsidiary goal is to rename them to match upstream, this is foo-plugin instead of just foo.

%% eix --only-names xfce4-*-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-battery-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-cellmodem-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-diskperf-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-eyes-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-fsguard-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-genmon-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-linelight-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-mailwatch-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-modemlights-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-mpc-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-netload-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-places-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-radio-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-stopwatch-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-time-out-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-timer-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-verve-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-wavelan-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-weather-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-wmdock-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
xfce-extra/xfce4-xkb-plugin

]]> By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-616 Jeremy Olexa Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:05:44 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-616 Your best bet is adding them to world. emerge --noreplace terminal mousepad orage xfprint Your best bet is adding them to world. emerge --noreplace terminal mousepad orage xfprint

]]> By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-615 Jeremy Olexa Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:03:11 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-615 Guide update in progress Guide update in progress

]]> By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-614 Jeremy Olexa Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:02:49 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-614 They once were and were moved away. That was before I started maintaining xfce though. They once were and were moved away. That was before I started maintaining xfce though.

]]> By: chapuzzo http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-613 chapuzzo Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:20:01 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-613 So, what do I have to do? emerge --depclean wants to remove some of the stuff I use just because nohting depends on them like for example: terminal, mousepad, orage, xfprint. Should I add them to world? or is there an ebuild which depends on them? I understand option 1 is easier for developers and option 3 is so for users. I really don't mind which is the final result, I want to know what to do now, in the meantime. Thanks for the hard work. So, what do I have to do? emerge --depclean wants to remove some of the stuff I use just because nohting depends on them like for example: terminal, mousepad, orage, xfprint.
Should I add them to world? or is there an ebuild which depends on them?

I understand option 1 is easier for developers and option 3 is so for users. I really don't mind which is the final result, I want to know what to do now, in the meantime.

Thanks for the hard work.

]]> By: Yorick http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-612 Yorick Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:21:25 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-612 Option 1 is the best, but plz note for new gentoo users update the xfce configuration guide when done so that it gives (minimal) working xfce desktop Option 1 is the best,

but plz note for new gentoo users update the xfce configuration guide when done so that it gives (minimal) working xfce desktop

]]> By: az http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-610 az Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:39:51 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-610 In the spirit of better organization; how about moving orage, Terminal, midori, mousepad into xfce-extra? That way all the xfce4 apps from upstream will all be in one place In the spirit of better organization; how about moving orage, Terminal, midori, mousepad into xfce-extra?
That way all the xfce4 apps from upstream will all be in one place

]]> By: slack---line http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-608 slack---line Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:02:13 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-608 I just noticed today that there were a host of new xfce plugins over the past day or so. Option 1 sounds reasonable, but I've found its a bit awkward (although obviously not impossible) to find all of the plugins (possibly in part due to renaming), but I've found them by 'eix xfce4 | grep plugin' and have been trying things out (some have required unmasking though) If the ultimate aim is to make the user experience for xfce users on Gentoo then in a sense option 1 would do that since Gentoo is about choice and users (generally) understand this (if not at first then certainly after a while using and working with Gentoo). However, I find option 3 appealing if there were USE flags set for each plugin as it would mean easier management of the plugin selection as a whole (from a users perspective obviously!). It also means that /var/lib/portage/world doesn't get so cluttered (not a problem, but I try to keep a minimal set of packages in world) and could from a user perspective be easily managed by using the appropriate USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use. I do however appreciate that this would require more work by the devs/maintainers. Just my tuppence, thanks for all the hard work, very much appreciated. I just noticed today that there were a host of new xfce plugins over the past day or so.

Option 1 sounds reasonable, but I've found its a bit awkward (although obviously not impossible) to find all of the plugins (possibly in part due to renaming), but I've found them by 'eix xfce4 | grep plugin' and have been trying things out (some have required unmasking though)

If the ultimate aim is to make the user experience for xfce users on Gentoo then in a sense option 1 would do that since Gentoo is about choice and users (generally) understand this (if not at first then certainly after a while using and working with Gentoo).

However, I find option 3 appealing if there were USE flags set for each plugin as it would mean easier management of the plugin selection as a whole (from a users perspective obviously!). It also means that /var/lib/portage/world doesn't get so cluttered (not a problem, but I try to keep a minimal set of packages in world) and could from a user perspective be easily managed by using the appropriate USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use. I do however appreciate that this would require more work by the devs/maintainers.

Just my tuppence, thanks for all the hard work, very much appreciated.

]]> By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-565 Jeremy Olexa Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:12:15 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-565 Considered, but more work for arch teams and more work for us (xfce maintainers) Considered, but more work for arch teams and more work for us (xfce maintainers)

]]> By: Jeremy Olexa http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/08/01/gentoo-how-to-handle-xfce-extras/comment-page-1/#comment-564 Jeremy Olexa Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:11:38 +0000 http://blog.jolexa.net/?p=472#comment-564 Will consider once an acceptable portage version isn't masked. For now, it would be silly to implement and not much benefit, I feel. Will consider once an acceptable portage version isn't masked. For now, it would be silly to implement and not much benefit, I feel.

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