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	<title>Comments on: On virtualization&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: tux2</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>tux2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QtEmu [1] is an other frontend for kvm/qemu.

[1] http://qtemu.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QtEmu [1] is an other frontend for kvm/qemu.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://qtemu.org/" rel="nofollow">http://qtemu.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jolexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>jolexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of kvm frontends:

qemulator is a mess on amd64. I did eventually get it to work by unpacking the tarball and running it from there (it is a simple python script) but the ebuild is no where near ready for amd64.

virt-manager has about ~80 deps on my machine and I don&#039;t care to install it. I think Ubuntu may be going down that route. [1] The screenshots of this one look promising.

virt-viewer: haven&#039;t quite figured out how to use this.

others?

[1]: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/282/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of kvm frontends:</p>
<p>qemulator is a mess on amd64. I did eventually get it to work by unpacking the tarball and running it from there (it is a simple python script) but the ebuild is no where near ready for amd64.</p>
<p>virt-manager has about ~80 deps on my machine and I don&#8217;t care to install it. I think Ubuntu may be going down that route. [1] The screenshots of this one look promising.</p>
<p>virt-viewer: haven&#8217;t quite figured out how to use this.</p>
<p>others?</p>
<p>[1]: <a href="http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/282/" rel="nofollow">http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/282/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jolexa</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>jolexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cynyr: nat networking worked for me out of the box. I had a harder time getting VBox networking to work right.
@Bruce: thx for the hint, I will look into that myself and bring the ~amd64 kw to it if it works.
@manfred: I didn&#039;t think the best of VBox performance. Disk I/O took a horrible hit and compilation was slow. I don&#039;t have any concrete numbers and this is my opinion of course but at least I *did* try both ;) Also, you can pass -smp  to the kvm arguments and your vm will have multiple processors. This way I can keep my host cpu usage at 100% (if desired) vs 40-50% max with VBox. Maybe there is a way to tweak this in VBox..not sure though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cynyr: nat networking worked for me out of the box. I had a harder time getting VBox networking to work right.<br />
@Bruce: thx for the hint, I will look into that myself and bring the ~amd64 kw to it if it works.<br />
@manfred: I didn&#8217;t think the best of VBox performance. Disk I/O took a horrible hit and compilation was slow. I don&#8217;t have any concrete numbers and this is my opinion of course but at least I *did* try both <img src='http://blog.jolexa.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Also, you can pass -smp  to the kvm arguments and your vm will have multiple processors. This way I can keep my host cpu usage at 100% (if desired) vs 40-50% max with VBox. Maybe there is a way to tweak this in VBox..not sure though.</p>
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		<title>By: manfred</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>manfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are contradictory reports floating around concerning the efficiency esp. comparing kvm and virtualbox; examplum gratia:
http://ww1.4hf.de/2008/08/virtualisierung-desktop-virtualisierung-im-vergleich.html
cites really outstanding benchmarks esp, for virtualbox ;)
How are your experiences with kvm so far? Are you content?
Kind regards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are contradictory reports floating around concerning the efficiency esp. comparing kvm and virtualbox; examplum gratia:<br />
<a href="http://ww1.4hf.de/2008/08/virtualisierung-desktop-virtualisierung-im-vergleich.html" rel="nofollow">http://ww1.4hf.de/2008/08/virtualisierung-desktop-virtualisierung-im-vergleich.html</a><br />
cites really outstanding benchmarks esp, for virtualbox <img src='http://blog.jolexa.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
How are your experiences with kvm so far? Are you content?<br />
Kind regards!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cynyr
Have a look at qemulator, a front end for qemu. The faq indicates that it should work with kvm too, although it has not been well tested yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cynyr<br />
Have a look at qemulator, a front end for qemu. The faq indicates that it should work with kvm too, although it has not been well tested yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynyr</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>disregard the comment about networking... they must have added -net user since about version 63</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disregard the comment about networking&#8230; they must have added -net user since about version 63</p>
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		<title>By: Cynyr</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have an easy example to get networking working? that has basicly the only thing keeping me on VBox instead of kvm (all i really need is nat networking as it is called in vbox, an internal dhcp server and a software transport to the real interface) Also know even the simplest of gui&#039;s for kvm? like a list and when you double click it launches one? I looked at writing on in python/gtk but it never got off the ground...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have an easy example to get networking working? that has basicly the only thing keeping me on VBox instead of kvm (all i really need is nat networking as it is called in vbox, an internal dhcp server and a software transport to the real interface) Also know even the simplest of gui&#8217;s for kvm? like a list and when you double click it launches one? I looked at writing on in python/gtk but it never got off the ground&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could ditch my virtualbox and get use kvm, but my processor does not support native virtualization :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could ditch my virtualbox and get use kvm, but my processor does not support native virtualization <img src='http://blog.jolexa.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
		<link>http://blog.jolexa.net/2008/11/14/on-virtualization/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be fun to post more VMs like this in the future, if tb will host &#039;em all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be fun to post more VMs like this in the future, if tb will host &#8216;em all.</p>
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